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So let's go ahead and take some of the questions that we have.
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One person asked the question, "Do we get points from each
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bullet point in every task or only the points from all the task?"
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That's a great question and I'll illustrate the answer.
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So let's say I have a task that's labeled simply 1.1
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and I've got some general information in sentence form
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and then I maybe have three bullet points.
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And of course each bullet point has some wording to it.
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This squiggly line just represents some sort of sentence or requirement
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or some wording.
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And of the verbiage, if I don't execute and meet each specific
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thing in the task and I forgot to draw the point value at the bottom
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maybe this task is worth four points.
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If for some reason I don't meet every single criteria
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in the task from the start of the task itself, not the whole
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section, but the task itself to the ending of where the point
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value is allocated or enumerated on the page, if I miss any one thing
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even if I just get only three words in this sentence wrong
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then I miss the entire task and so therefore the entire
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point value, so it is necessary to get every single bit of
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criteria in a given task correct in order to gain and be allocated
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or awarded those points.
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Ok, and so this is what Cisco or other CCIE candidates
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that you may see posting on forums and mailing lists what they
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mean when people talk about no partial credit.
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Now, this task right here might have some sort of
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relevancy to another task, so maybe task 3.4
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has a dependency on this task.
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Now it has a dependency on most of the wording in this
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task, but it doesn't really have a dependency on this
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little bit here that I messed up.
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Well, while I wouldn't have gotten the four points for this
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task because of just this little bit of wording that I
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messed up, the rest of the task of 3.4 I would still get the
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points if whatever 3.4 was dependant on in task 1.1
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worked properly. Maybe it was only dependant on this primary
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sentence working.
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Ok,
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if on the other hand as another example
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task 1.1 is worth four points
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and task 3.4 is worth three points let's say
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for instance
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and this one's only got some sentences, it doesn't have any
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bullet points.
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And I've got a few sentences in 1.1 and a few bullet points
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again
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and let's say I for whatever reason completely blow
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task 1.1, I mean nothing in it works.
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This sentence doesn't work, this sentence isn't configured properly
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this isn't configured properly, really nothing works
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then -- and let's say 3.4 was in any way dependant
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on task 1.1, then I'm going to miss the points for 3.4 as well.
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So this is where we're talking about the core dependencies
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and the core tasks and how they can have rippling effects
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in terms of points being taken away.
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So great question.
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Hopefully that answered that.
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Please key in some more if that wasn't exactly what you
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were asking or if you have a follow-up question.
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So another question is, "Are the labs..."
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Oh, I think you're talking about specifically are our
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labs in our volume 2 workbook where -- and this is going to be
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different for those watching the recorded version versus
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the live version depending on what labs have been updated at
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this point, but he's asking specifically "Are the volume 2
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INE labs 3 through 10 worth going ahead and doing
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because they're only graded currently at 79 points and not 100
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and so they're not as difficult as the new one and two labs
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volume 2 labs 1 and volume 2 lab 2
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that I recently updated and do I plan to upgrade those as well?"
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So again, for the recorded version, this may have very well changed
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by the time you look at this.
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So it's a great question
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first of all, absolutely we do plan to upgrade those
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and that will be coming along very shortly
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secondly, I think they are worth going ahead and taking
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into account because while -- and the reason that he's noting
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that the some of the labs in volume 2 depending on
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when you're watching this may or may not have been
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upgraded from being worth 79 points is that at one point in time
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Cisco was -- they had introduced something to the route switch and
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actually a number of the different pretty much all
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of the different CCIE tracks route switch security service
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provider and certainly voice called the core knowledge section
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or open ended questions and there were four questions
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that you had to answer and you had to get either
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three or four correct in order to be awarded
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21 points, it didn't matter whether you got three or four
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and this was part of a way to mitigate cheating, pirating
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of the exams, it was also a way to further test knowledge and
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troubleshooting and it was really geared toward configuration
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and not so much like the written is more geared a little bit more to
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concept, but regardless of all that, those have been
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taken away from the Voice exam, so that's no longer
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relevant, so the reason that some of the mock labs were
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or may still be depending on when you're listening this
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graded at a point value of 79 points was because there was
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21 additional points for open ended questions.
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Well here was the thing about that.
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You had a half hour to complete when this was
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still being tested by Cisco, the core knowledge,
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you had a half hour to complete those four questions
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and it really -- the truth is they didn't really change
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the difficulty of the configuration portion of the lab very much
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they didn't expect most people would even spend a half hour
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on them even though it very unfairly weighted your chances
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of passing of passing because if you didn't get that core knowledge
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section, if you didn't get at least three of those
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four questions right, so if you only got two or less, you would fail
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the entire exam. Regardless of that, it's not there
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you don't have to worry about it being fair or not anymore
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but they didn't really change the difficulty too much of the
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rest of the exam, so I don't think they really
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accurately pinpointed a half hour worth of
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tasks from your configuration portion and extracted those
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when they introduced that and then reintroduced those
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tasks when they got rid of that, so in that measure, I do still think
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that the volume 2 labs that have 79 points as their overall
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are worth doing and I think that it's very easy to figure out
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how many points you would have gotten because you simply
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take 79 as the whole and you use it as a ratio.
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So if there are -- and this really goes towards your
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understanding of the QoS
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shared round robin queuing alright, if you think about it, so
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if you say 79 points is the whole and a point or a task that's worth
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four points is actually now worth 4 over 79
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you divide and you get the overall average ratio or you
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could just go back and kind of relatively key in those
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values. I haven't updated the values of the points
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because I'm going to, as you mentioned, be rewriting
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all of those labs, so I do think that they're worth doing
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to some degree I would focus on labs 1 and 2 and hopefully
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I'll be by the time you're listening to this recording have already
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turned out a few more labs, but I do still think they have some
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relevancy absolutely.
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And they prevent -- sorry, present different view points
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different ways of possibly thinking about task wording
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task questions as well as configuration.
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And then you also mentioned or asked the question, "Do you plan to
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create mock labs to be taken as a practice before the exam
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in the future like the route and switch section?"
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That's a good question and some of this deals I guess
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a little bit more product development than it does
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overall strategy, the answer to that question is sort of a
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yet to be determined. We're going to finish upgrading the
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by the you're listening to this probably already have
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long upgraded the CCNA and NP Voice materials
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that's next and then I'm going to upgrade the volume 2
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workbooks as I've completed the deep dives and the
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the volume 1 deep dive workbooks and videos
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and now the ATC
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the difficulty or I shouldn't really say the difficulty, but
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the bar that we've set for the route switch mock labs
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is that we, INE, spent a good long amount of time and money
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creating a fully customized scripted grading engine
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for those route switch mock labs.
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So when they're taken, they can instantly be graded
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and we're considering a number of different options for
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the Voice portion of that, so the answer to your question is
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that it very well may happen in the near future or I should say
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it very well may happen in the soon to be near future
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but I can't give you an exact date nor can I say that
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it's 100 percent going to be done, but it's certainly
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being thought about.
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Ok, so are there -- those are great questions
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are there any other questions in relation to strategy or
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or anything else?
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No problem, glad to help.
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Until I see any keyed in, let's go ahead and take a look
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at some study plans using the products that we do have.
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So
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and please if you have any other questions about product
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development or anything, they may not necessarily feed into the
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recording long term just because they are a bit specific to where we are
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at this point and time for the live class, but certainly
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I'm more than happy to take those questions and try to answer
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them to the best of my current knowledge
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and what the current plan is, so taking a look at and I've got
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here basically six and a half month and a nine month study
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plan using some of our material so it really depends on where you're
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at in terms of your overall study and shortly probably by
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the time this recording comes out or is out and you're watching it
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shortly I'll actually -- I'm going to be releasing a blog article
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that I plan currently to title CCNA to CCIE
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in a year and laying out a strategy where a dedicated
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individual with approximately 16 hours per week dedicated
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and able to dedicate to studying with two weeks off during the entire
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year, the rest of it 16 hours per week dedicated
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could go from already having passed your CCNA route and switch
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your base CCNA, but has not touched the Voice products
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yet or Voice track yet and could go from a CCNA period
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to a achieving their CCNA Voice CCNP Voice and then on to CCIE Voice
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however, at this point I want to go ahead and especially for this
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CCIE ATC class I want to enumerate what you could
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expect to realistically put into study and really lab time
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and again, it's going to depend a bit on where you're
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currently at, so you're going to have to take that into account.
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Obviously each case is going to be slightly different from each other.
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So you might want to adjust this study plan slightly to fit
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your needs, to fit your current position and readiness.
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And one of the things that's really important when studying
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for any CCIE or any exam is to really be a bit brutally
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honest with yourself take a very fair and accurate
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assessment of yourself.
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And sometimes it takes gaging your current abilities
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against whether it's a lab or practice exam as
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as you -- as one of you mentioned here just a bit ago
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and asking if we were going to release those sort of mock labs
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and certainly that's a part of it as you're going on towards the
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closer to the mid to end of your studies
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but even in the beginning it's important that you take
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an accurate assessment of yourself and be a little brutally honest
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with yourself to the point where you're not -- not
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degrading yourself, but certainly not thinking higher
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or more of your abilities than they actually are and the reason is
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this is really important is not to feel bad about yourself
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but really to be able to place yourself at an accurate
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point in time to where to start studying, so -- and that's
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what we attempt to do here and what I'm going to attempt to do with that
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blog article turn white paper, but I also want to say that
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it could have -- it could be or look a little bit different
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for you as a particular any one individual and I'm speaking to
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the proverbial you
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versus someone else who might be looking at it
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or versus you who might be at a different place.
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The proverbial next you, ok.
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So first off, one of the things that I want to say is that
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if you have recently and this is -- I'm going to say
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a fluid variable when I say the word recently
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so regardless of when you're listening to this
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in the recorded class on demand version, if you
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have recently taken the CCNA and maybe more specifically
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CCNP Voice exams, so the one for CCNA and the
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five for CCNP Voice
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then after the version of the exam or I should say
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at and/or after the version of the NA and NP Voice exams
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that they began testing on CUCM version 8.0 or
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8.5, the amount of knowledge and information
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that they begin asking you about is really so in depth
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and I don't know whether to be impressed at it or to just
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be sort in awe at how much Cisco is requiring you to know
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early on even at the NA Voice level
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as well as maybe a little bit more practical
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somewhat hands on in terms of simulation and things
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and NP Voice level
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but there's so much there that really this is what we
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cover in much if not all of what we have
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as our Voice deep dive product.
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And in fact, what we have is our Voice deep dive product
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will continue to be a CCIE level content for volume 1
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but really volume 1 is always sort of if you will gear toward
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those who haven't either taken the CCNA and NP
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path which of course the CCIE has never had at least so far
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has never had the requirement that you have to come up through
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the NA and NP levels. You can jump right to the CCIE level
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and certainly many people do decide to do that.
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It may become a requirement at some point to do NA and NP
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before IE, but not as of this current recording.
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And so therefore some people don't necessarily have
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all the foundational knowledge that they may need and/or
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the other situation is that you may not have done
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NA or NP Voice recently and so regardless what
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version NA and NP Voice we're testing on at the time when you took it
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maybe you did it a year ago and so you're very much
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in need of going back and not hitting on all of the fundamental things
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but certainly going back and definitely getting a lot of lab time
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and looking and using the volume 1 deep dives.
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But in terms of a conceptual learning tool, the deep dives
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are geared at the NA and NP level in terms of a practical
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tool when you're actually applying them to a lab environment
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and going and practicing these tasks, that's when
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they're more geared toward the CCIE level, so really in essence
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what we're going to be doing is making these Voice
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deep dives sort of a hybrid product. They're going to be
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the core of our lecture and even just maybe watching the
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video on demand for the NA and NP series
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as well as all the additional stuff that we'll be doing to
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bring what we had done with the Voice deep dives
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which were at time they were recorded geared
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around and recorded around version 7.0.1, so we'll be
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bringing them up to speed with the things that -- well really
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7.1 and 7.2 and then certainly 8.0 and 8.5
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covered to fully round them out and make them the
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go to all you need tool to watch and then be ready
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to take and pass your NA and NP level courses.
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But then they'll also still remain the CCIE voice volume 1
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as far as the workbook because then we get into
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moving away from just the conceptual knowledge and
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being able to answer a multiple question even being able to do
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a simulation here and there and drag multiple choice
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but then we get into actually applying the configuration
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and doing the work ourselves on the racks whether it's our own
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rack or a rented rack.
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So -- and that's what I'm saying that depending on how recently
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and what you did when you took your NA NP Voice level
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studies, if you not only chose to take and do the NP level
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studies in terms of listening to and memorizing what
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needed to be memorized conceptually
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but you also chose to go ahead and do a lot of the
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the practical application, the actual labs or tasks that we
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give you, then that might also affect your need
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or offset some of the need that I'm going to be explaining here to
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go over those deep dives.
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Ok, so hopefully that makes sense. We're going to use it as a hybrid product
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and the more that you've done it at the NA NP level, the less
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you'll need to do it at the IE level, I should say the more
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you've actually applied this, not just watched the class on
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demand, but actually applied and tested these configurations
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in your labs.
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Ok, so here's a six and a half month study plan for
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people that have really done a lot of the NA and NP
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level material whether it was through us or someone
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else recently and taken the test recently, so the knowledge
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is very fresh on your mind. Here, I go through and say that
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I'm dividing it up into weeks
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and what I'm showing to begin with is week one and two
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we're going to do deep dive volume 1 module 1
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network infrastructure and QoS
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so this is 16 hours dedicated to a week, so realistically
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four days out of the seven
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that you can dedicate four hours to studying
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or maybe three hours a day for five days
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and maybe on one of those days an extra hour
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or however you want to divide them up if you can do
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two hours here and there and you do seven days of
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two hours maybe with one day with a few extra hours
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or two weekend days whatever it is, however you
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can divide it up, but doing the same tasks
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every single day for week one.
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And then doing the same task for the second week.
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Why do I put so much emphasis on this?
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Because when you get to the real lab and even when you
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get to your mock labs
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being able to execute network infrastructure, so
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do DHCP, VLANs, VTP
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routing, any routing issues and Quality of Service
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LAN and WAN, you should be able to execute in
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without even thinking about it muscle memory
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in your sleep in ten minutes.
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15 minutes at the outside max.
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And so I believe that two solid weeks of this repeating
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the same thing over and over and over will by the time
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you're done with the second week, you'll be so bored with this
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you'll never think about looking back to infrastructure, network
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infrastructure and QoS again, you'll simply do it.
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It will be easy. You'll come to it and you'll say that's super
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easy, it sucks that I even have to do it every single time
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I do a full mock lab, but I'm just going to do it, I'm going to bang it
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out, it's going to be quick and you're going to have it
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down without even thinking about it.
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Then the next week, I would say do CUCM system and phone
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basics and again, this is so this is modules three and four.
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So users and LDAP as well at a minimum users
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but also CUCM system and phone basics, so this is getting all the services
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started, phones registered, all the basics of the phones
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configured, users etc.
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And again, the reason why I'm having you do one particular
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module if you would choose to follow this plan
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if not and you want to come up with your own, that's perfectly
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fine of course. The reason I'm having you do the same tasks
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every day for a week is to build as I was mentioning in the strategy
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lecture section, to build that repetitiveness that inherently
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builds the accuracy and inherently builds the speed.
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Ok, so there really is as Hamlet would say 'a method in this madness.'
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It will seem repetitive, that's part of the point.
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Week 4, again over and over and over, day after day
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phone and calling features and I should actually say one more thing
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about this plan is that you're not -- this is not intended that
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you take the whole week and it takes the entire
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week spanned out over multiple days to do module 5
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If it does take that, then copy this week 4
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and tack it on as a repeat week.
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Ok, and then adjust this schedule accordingly.
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The idea is that you're able to get through this particular
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section in an entire day one days worth of studying
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maybe it takes two days worth of studying to begin with
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and then the next day you can get 90 percent of it done in the day
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and then the next day you can take four hours and get the
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whole thing done and the next day you can take three
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hours and get the whole thing done.
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But we're trying to build little mini milestones as we go along
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of not only speed and accuracy for the individual task, but also
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little mini confidence boosters in our own mental well being
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and mental strategy in preparation for the lab.
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Little mini confidence boosters that say oh, no problem
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if I see anything with LDAP, I'm not even going to be
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slightly worried, it takes two seconds to -- I mean
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literally two minutes to configure and troubleshoot.
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Two seconds is a bit figurative, but two minutes to configure.
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I'm not worried about it whereas if you had never implemented LDAP
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Microsoft active directory sync or authentication
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you might see the word and just be overcome with fear like
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oh, I wasn't planning on that.
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Also one other thing I didn't mention in the strategy section
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I should probably go ahead and mention now, in the real lab
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let's say you were given just as an example task where
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you were supposed to sync all your users through LDAP
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unless they didn't tell you what those users were
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in which case just make some up, but let's say you didn't know
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how to do it and as I mentioned in strategy something that you
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absolutely have no idea how to do, you don't want to learn
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in the lab, so you simply choose not to do it.
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However, the idea of users is sort of core to being able
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to have applications and Voice work whether
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it's UCCX agents or CUPS or mobile connect or whatever.
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If you were given a task simply sync the LDAP users
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and you couldn't do it and you would therefore lose
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the three or four points, you're also going to lose
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all the other points associated with users as a foundational
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building block if you don't have users.
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So go ahead and violate their orders by syncing LDAP
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because you don't have any idea what to do
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instead, just go create some users.
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Will you get the points for the LDAP task? No.
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But all the other tasks that rely on users being there and working
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you'll go ahead and get those tasks.
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Ok, unless it was on like a particular synced field
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from the LDAP such as like a phone number, a telephone number
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which is about the only thing I could think of
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other than that, just create users. You lose one set of points, but
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at least your foundational building block for all the others
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is there, so that's just an example. I'm not saying I think
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you'll have LDAP, but the point is, is that there are some
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things that you can violate the restrictions or violate the
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task requirements in order to have other things work.
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Maybe you can't bind a certain protocol to a source
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0:27:16
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loopback address, you just can't get it working for whatever
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reason it's just not working. It's always worked in your
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home lab, it's not working the day of the lab.
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Don't bind it to the loopback, you'll lose the task for that particular
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gateway, yes, but all your other tasks that
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rely on dial plan working and calls going in and out
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that gateway will work and that's going to be more important at that point.
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Ok, so then week 5
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media resources the whole week. Week 6: module 7 gateways and trunks.
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Week 7: module 8 gatekeeper
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and then weeks 8, 9, 10, 11 -- sorry 8, 9 and 10
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are modules -- and you're going to be doing these all
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together, so 9, 10 and 11
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so maybe you'll do module 9 a couple days and then module 10
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a couple days and then module 11
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a couple of days during the first week, week 8
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0:28:13
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and then you'll do them all over again and it won't take you
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0:28:16
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quite two days per module, but you'll be able to combine
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a lot of them together, in fact, 11 is easily combined with 10
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and 9 can be modified upon in fact it deals more with
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0:28:28
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basics in general, but you'll do three solid weeks
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0:28:32
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of dial plan in all its facets.
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In the nine month plan
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or sorry -- yeah, in the nine month plan you'll
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actually have four weeks of this.
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0:28:41
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But obviously, dial plan being the most core
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0:28:45
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fundamental section obviously building on gateways and trunks
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0:28:50
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as well, but being digit manipulation, routing calls where they
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should go, having them presented, calling and
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called in the way that they should be
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0:29:00
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is absolutely crucial, you need to know it like
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0:29:04
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it's just -- you need to know it like the back of your hand.
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0:29:09
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And then again, week 11 we're adding in, we're basically
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0:29:13
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doing still module 9, 10 and 11 but we're throwing in
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12 as well, so doing dial plan along with CUBE
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and then week 12: module 13 and 14
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doing unified mobility, device mobility and extension mobility.
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0:29:31
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Week 13 and 14: CME
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system and phone basics and CME call coverage
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0:29:38
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call features and SRST, so that's weeks 13 and 14 respectively.
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0:29:42
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15, 16 and 17 bring in the servers, the messaging
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0:29:46
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for 15, contact center for 16
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and presence for 17
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0:29:53
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and then weeks 18 through 26
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are volume 2 lab 1, lab 2 then lab 3
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0:30:01
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then back to lab 2, lab 3 and lab 1 and then lab 4, lab 5
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0:30:07
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and back to lab 3
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0:30:09
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again, I'm having you repeat a number of the labs
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0:30:12
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because we want to build speed and accuracy even though
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0:30:15
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you've already seen that lab, you already know what
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0:30:18
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tasks are going to be there, so is it worth doing it
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0:30:20
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again? Absolutely.
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In fact, if you took two or three labs and did them
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over and over and over and when I say week 19
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by this point we're not spending 16 hours
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per week, so hopefully we're spending a little bit more time
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0:30:37
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maybe not in the first few, but towards the last
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the idea is that by week 27, you should be ready to take
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0:30:46
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the lab at least on this six and a half month plan
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0:30:49
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so if week 27 you're taking the lab, week 25 and 26
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0:30:55
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you should spend all day every day as long as it
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0:31:00
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takes to accomplish that particular lab.
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0:31:04
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and as you do this, you'll see your times, the time that it takes
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0:31:09
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you to complete the lab both configuration and verification
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0:31:13
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troubleshooting go from anywhere from maybe 16
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0:31:19
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or 14 hours or maybe even as little as 10 or 12 hours to
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0:31:22
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complete a single lab to by the end of week 2
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0:31:25
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you'll be able to go through a single lab in five hours flat
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0:31:28
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configuration, troubleshooting everything
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0:31:32
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so those last couple weeks it's every single day
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0:31:35
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all day if you can afford it. I realize some people can't
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take that sort of time out of their regular lives, but
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0:31:43
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if you can at all manage it, it is something that
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will absolutely be game changing and completely
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0:31:50
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worth it in your actual real CCIE lab attempt.
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0:31:57
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But even in these other days or these other weeks rather
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0:32:00
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if you can only allocate four hours a day, then do
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0:32:03
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half a lab and try to do the next half the next day.
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0:32:10
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If you can only finish half a lab, if you have your own
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0:32:12
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rack of equipment, it's obviously easy to just leave the state of the
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0:32:15
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equipment where it's at and come back the next day.
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0:32:18
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If you're using INE's racks our graded lab racks
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0:32:23
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it's easy to back up your router and switch configs just
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0:32:26
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copy them into Notepad and save them in your own hard drive
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0:32:30
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on a directory and then it's not very difficult at all to go up
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0:32:33
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to bulk administration tool import/export and export
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0:32:39
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your CUCM configuration and likely the first four
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0:32:44
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hours is when you'll get either some or maybe even
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0:32:48
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little of your CUCM configuration done
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0:32:50
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but you likely won't have already begun or maybe
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0:32:53
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you will, but possibly not have begun or done too much
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0:32:59
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in your other servers, your Unity Connection
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0:33:02
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CUPS and UCCX servers where you don't really have the ability
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0:33:07
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to back them up, I mean you can use the disaster recovery backup tool
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0:33:12
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but those files are rather large, hundreds of megs
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0:33:16
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it might be pretty difficult to download from us
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0:33:18
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depending on how much time you have left in your
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0:33:21
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rack session whereas if you export a CUCM configuration
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0:33:26
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using the BAT tool, it exports a bunch of little
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0:33:29
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CSV files into one big tar ball file and it's very
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0:33:34
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light weight, typically under 2 to 300 k for the entire tar ball
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0:33:38
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full of the CSVs and it's where the bulk of configuration
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0:33:42
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lies outside of your routers and switches.
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0:33:45
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Ok, so it's not very difficult to export that and then
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0:33:48
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reimport that the next day and fix up a few things that
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0:33:51
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the reimport might not do properly like set the proper
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0:33:54
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calling search spaces or significant digits on your
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0:33:58
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inbound gateways and trunks and then also
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0:34:01
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deal with the calling called party import configuration
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0:34:07
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issue that sometimes occurs and I've actually recorded a
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0:34:11
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couple 10 or 12 minute videos outlining what
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0:34:14
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those import issues are, so once you've watched those and
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0:34:16
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and dealt with them once or twice, then it's not too
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hard to deal with them every other time very rapidly, very quickly.
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0:34:24
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Ok, so taking a look at the nine month plan. Again,
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0:34:28
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weeks 1 and 2 network infrastructure
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0:34:31
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week 3, 4 actually
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0:34:34
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3 is sort of on its own, it's CUCM system basics
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0:34:37
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but then week 4 through 7, you can see what those
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0:34:40
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deep dive modules are and then weeks 8 through 11
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0:34:44
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are a complete repeat of weeks 4 through 7
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0:34:48
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Ok, so this might be someone that didn't have in any way
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0:34:52
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recently taken a CCNA or a CCNP level practice or
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0:34:58
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understanding, anything recently so it's been a year or more
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0:35:03
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maybe two years since you did any of that
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0:35:07
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or you simply have never done that at all, so this is sort of
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0:35:10
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where you're starting out as the CCIE level.
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0:35:13
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Again, four weeks of dial plan and really five
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0:35:16
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because the fifth -- I shouldn't say again, in the last one it was
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three weeks and week 4 tagged in CUBE on there
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here we're doing four weeks with week 5
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tagging in CUBE and then week 6 of dial plan is
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just adding in unified device and extension mobility.
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And then we have four weeks 18 through 21 of CME system and
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and call features and then again, a repeat CUCM or sorry
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CUCME Communication Manager Express
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system and phone basics and call features, call coverage
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and SRST, so the repeat.
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And then we've got three weeks of servers.
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Well 22 through 24 messaging, contact center
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and presence and then a repeat of those three weeks
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messaging, contact center and presence.
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And then we've got about the same number of weeks of
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mock labs. And again, as much as you
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can do of lab one over and over and over again during that
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week and then lab two again and again and again
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and again during that week it's going to build your confidence
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which is going to be great for your mental state
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of feeling like you're prepared for the lab.
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Don't just stop there and say ok, well I could do
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by the end of the second week I could easily go back and do
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lab 1 or lab 2 in five hours, that's great
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but then there's new stuff you haven't seen in lab 3
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so that's going to offset your time a little more
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add time that you weren't expecting, so again,
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then lab 3 all day every day during the week at least as
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much as you can do, at least a minimum of four
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hours by week 30 or 32 or 33
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by the time you're getting to week 33, 34 hopefully you're
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able to allocate maybe five or six hours a day
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to the labs and by the time you're at the last
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two weeks before your actual attempt to take
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the lab, this is where hopefully you're able to allocate at least
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eight hours a day, but preferably 12 hours
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per day knowing that by the time you get towards the end
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of the second week, you won't need 12 hours in a day
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you will only need eight and maybe even six
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to get a full configuration and verification with troubleshooting
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and even have a little bit of time left over to do your
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own grading.
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Ok,
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and I actually only have in usage here five of the labs
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from our volume 2 workbook and the idea is that really
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you can have more labs, that's fine. It's not a problem
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to have more labs, what isn't necessarily good is to do
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lab 1 and I don't advocate this in any way, day 1
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of your mock labs whenever that begins, day 1 you do lab 1
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day 2 you do lab 2, day 3 you do lab 3
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here I have lab 1 as every day during this week.
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Ok, but I don't say day 1 lab 1, day 2 lab 2
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day 3 lab 3, day 4 lab 4
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through day 10 lab 10 and then go back and maybe
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do a couple over again. I don't think that's really the
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best way to practice, I don't think it builds the repetition
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which builds the accuracy and speed inherently
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I think that over one given week you should do a
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single lab over and over we'll revisit that lab again
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to see how well you retained that information and more
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importantly how well you retained your speed and accuracy because
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that's one of the primary things we're trying to build here is your
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speed and accuracy.
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Ok, and that's why towards the last few weeks we introduce
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a few new labs that you haven't seen and then maybe
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even go back and grab a lab you have seen
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a few times, but hoping that you can by that time
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fly through it very quickly while at the same time not
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just flying through it so quickly that you're not paying
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attention, but still very carefully reading the requirements
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and making sure you're executing it fully and properly.
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I'd like to take any questions regarding that as a study plan.
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And/or any other questions at this time.
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I'll just open it up to any questions anyone might have.
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So someone asked the question, "Mark, in your study plan where can
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we use the Voice ATC?" That's a great question
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since I'm actually preparing the study plan, but then also
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still finishing up the recording of this Voice advanced technology
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class or ATC, I hadn't taken that into account.
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That's a really good question.
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This -- the Voice ATC for those who have already done the CCNA
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and NP level, it's really meant as a go-between, between your
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actual NA and NP studies and then so watching the
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Voice ATC or any advanced technology class that INE offers
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in between those NA and NP studies and in between really
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then or I should say it's meant as a primer, a linkage between
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those NA and NP studies and the beginnings of your
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CCIE studies, so really where I would put the Voice ATC
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is right at the beginning of that whole plan.
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So whether it's the nine month plan or the six and a half
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month plan, I would put it at the very beginning. Now
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for some of you if you were here for the entire online
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series, obviously that's going to minimize how much you'll need to
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watch this, maybe you didn't -- weren't here, weren't available
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for every day or not even all day on every day only
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parts of each day, so you'll need to gage that, but
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for those that are seeing it for the first time
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obviously if you're watching this recorded version later, you're
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coming to the end of the Voice ATC, so you've already
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put it in the sixth month plan, so that's I guess
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where the in terms of looking at the study plan
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for those who have just finished watching the Voice ATC
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and just didn't necessarily skip to the end of the strategy
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section which if you did I guess that's fine as well, but it
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really goes in between or before either of these plans begin.
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Great question.
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But unless there's any other questions at this moment
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I'd like to go ahead and thank everyone formally for attending
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INE's CCIE Voice Advanced Technologies Class.
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And I look forward to seeing you on our IEOC
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Internetwork Expert Online Community, ieoc.com
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forums/mailing list and seeing e-mails from you and hopefully
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seeing an e-mail from you very soon with your numbers
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and a little subject line saying I passed.
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